Myers briggs and communication.....

I will take each spectrum one at a time and talk in terms of the difficulties that sometimes arise when an extreme version of one end of the spectrum converses with the opposite extremity.
EXTRAVERTS and INTROVERTS

Another difficulty that can arise is due to introverts assuming extraverts have processed what they say as much as they do (before delivering into the external world). Because an extravert thinks aloud - as their ideas are forming - they tend to share the whole process of mulling something over. Introverts can therefore sometimes take these 'on the way to the conclusion' vocalisations as the final decision. So you can often hear an introvert say, but you said...' and the extravert will reply, 'oh yes, but that wasn't my final decision'.
If introverts and extraverts are separated to discuss and list something, for example 'list what is needed for a quality meeting.' you can readily witness the differences. The extraverts will actually move more while they discuss, they will talk more, talk over each other and their list will be a long, eclectic and diverse mix of not overly considered criteria. The introverts on the other hand will talk one at a time, listen intently and the list they produce will be a shorter but well considered one.
SENSORS and INTUITIVES

In any task, both sensors and intuitives play an important role and can complement each other. The intuitives strengths are mapping out the aim, the 'point' of anything and any other big picture considerations (the 'why?'). The sensor's strengths lie in sorting the details (the 'what', 'when' and 'how'). However, if people are unaware of the individual's strengths in a group, everyone tackles a projects from a different starting point. An example of this was when I was planning a training day. I HAD to start with, 'what are we trying to achieve?' and 'what messages do we need people to receive?' whereas my sensing colleague asked, 'what time will tea and coffee start being served?'
I once read that the saying, those that can, do and those that can't teach - was a sensor's snipe at an intuitive. That sounds about right! Pure academia favours intuitives.
THINKERS and FEELERS

A very 'thinkery' headteacher once gave me an illustration of thinkers and feelers struggling to understand each other. He said, 'I had a shortage of staff so I asked a person who used to work in my school if they could return to work. I knew this decision wasn't popular with the rest of the staff as they told me.' Apparently this person had caused some problems among the staff but she was a good teacher, she lived locally and she was available. The decision simply made sense to this headteacher. He was very surprised at how much distress this re-appointment caused.

Another way of thinking about the differences between thinkers and feelers is that feelers are more likely to make decisions made on a 'gut reaction'. They make an evaluative judgement e.g. I prefer that to this. Whereas thinkers are more likely to work out the logical pros and cons of any decision. Also, feelers tend to be fully and emotionally involved in any decision whereas thinkers are better portrayed as impartial onlookers throwing points into the decision arena.
I will describe a disastrous thinker/feeler interaction I have witnessed more than once....
The thinker states something that makes logical sense to him/her. However, what the thinker states has overlooked the impact their suggestion might have on the feeler. The feeler is 'wounded' and takes offence and makes this offence known. The thinker cannot see the logic in what the feeler said and does not take their offence seriously because it's not logical. The feeler gets upset by the thinker's response and starts to speak even more emotively (and perhaps irrationally) and the thinker starts to think less of the feeler because they are making even less sense. Both end up upset (more likely to be the feeler) or angry (more likely to be the thinker) by the others' inability to see their point of view which makes absolute sense to the person that owns it.
In other words feelers are more likely to take things personally and once they are on the defensive because of upset, they are likely to make less and less sense to a thinker!
JUDGERS and PERCEIVERS

For example, 'did you like that film?'
Judger: Yes
Perceiver: I don't know, what did you think of it?
In meetings judgers and perceivers are obvious - not least by the way their bits of paper are sitting in front of them! The judgers have their possessions neatly placed but the perceiver's stuff is usually scattered randomly all over the place. Also, the judger is the one making decisions about how work needs to be taken forward but the perceiver still wants to explore further possibilites before they decide upon future action. Judgers will pin things down to time scales, perceivers can leave a meeting having failed to even consider such things. Extreme perceivers are always poised for that extra bit of information that could arrive at any moment and make the whole scenario need a re-think! Extreme judgers, however, gun for the clarity of closure and once the decision is made, do not want to visit it again - even if they learn something new about the situation.
Again these two types can complement each other. Perceivers are flexible and happy to explore all possibilities so they are good for the start of exploring a development but once everything has been considered, the judger is better at pinning it all down. Also, coping with a 'spanner in the works' is the domain of the perceiver. A strong judger will be unsettled if something does not go to plan, the perceiver is usually happy with the distraction!
I realise I could write so much more about this! Hopefully that is a tasty snippet.
Something some people prefer is Kiersey's approach.
ReplyDeleteKiersey simplified MB and attributed four basic outlooks to the sixteen types:
SP - ARTISANS in the moment, fun, mentally agile, unconventional, make an impact 'tactics'
SJ - GUARDIANS cooperative, sort the admin out, responsible, like to belong 'logistics'
NF - IDEALISTS, imaginative, seek meaning and personal development, individualists, 'diplomacy'
NT - RATIONALS, problem solvers, acquire knowledge and mastery at things, 'strategy'
So it's not over yet then?! Wink wink xxx
ReplyDeleteMore! more! Lay it on me baby!
ReplyDeleteGet yourselves a chat room you two!!
ReplyDeleteAnd congrats to you too Claire for the travel writing. I read it, it's interesting. Thx.
ReplyDeleteOK so I have one that has had enough and one that can't get enough. Ooh.
ReplyDeleteI'll just wait and see what happens next time I blog.
I love the Myers Briggs! This is a very insightful and useful post. Did you know I now find myself applying the concepts of MBTI in practically every situation I find myself in?
ReplyDeleteYou are my star pupils then Nikki!!!
ReplyDeleteEmma ENFP?
Lazy Breakfast ESFJ or ISFJ?
I see it everywhere too. It has helped me no end! It definitely speaks louder to those that have some extreme stuff going on!
I am extremely N and P. I'd imagine you're pretty N too.
well what i don't get (so what does that make ME) is who cares anyway? really. and i dont' mean any disrespect to you here.
ReplyDeleteit's just all too much. this kind of stuff has been around for years and every job or course i've taken has tried to interpret it in one format or another. "who are you and what makes you tick, and what makes those around you tick etc. etc."
i really find it's tiresome. again, no disrespect molly. i have neither the attention span nor the inclination to grapple with it. (must be 'cos the older i get the less patience/tolerance i have.
imho there are two types of people: those that i like and those that i don't.
my book comes out in the fall. (wink)
;-)
I am not sure about Emma - she is interested but I have never managed to pin her down to finishing the questions! Lazy Breakfast thinks she is an INFP but like you I suspect her much more of being ISFJ. TJ also came out as INFP when I discussed it with him! I was very surprised! Thought he was more ENTP. Odd!
ReplyDeleteI am very N but mine is the opposite way round to yours I think? Ne instead of your Ni? Which (I think!) means you are good at imagining possibilities and creating new boxes out of thin air whereas I am good at making links and connections to boxes that already exist - speaking in metaphor and the like!
Oh and I think I am really on the cusp with the P/J, more on the P side but definitely not as extreme.
Oops, I am totally wrong again, we have both got Ne, just yours is your first function whereas my first function is Fi! I will need to look into this a bit more! I think it's more to do with the difference between intraversion and extraversion.
ReplyDeleteHi Clippy and Nikki,
ReplyDeleteThere again...those that do and those that don't. It's not everyone's cup of tea but those that love it, love it and those that don't, don't. So take it or leave it but don't knock other;s love of it (celebrate diversity!!!). The learning it has given me has totally helped me understand why I have always been a bit against the grain, 'outside the box' or even a social misfit and made me feel more comfy in my own skin and helped me understand why I just don't get some people....which used to bug me! I wanted to like everyone being wired up like I am. Silly me.
So I guess it gave me structured way to understand how some interactions went so well and others didn't. However....I'd say Carl Jung's stuff on the unconscious is the real way forward on that one! I love the lifetime journey of learning about people.
And dare I be so bold as to guess (though I know you won't engage and thta's really fine). Clippy Mat ESFP!!!!
Free online test: (!!!)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
Ah Clippy...just thought of a better way of putting it. This is not about me telling you that this Myers Briggs stuff will 'do' something for you any more than it's about you telling me that it shouldn't 'do' anything for me! If that's possibly what you were trying to do??? Or perhaps you were just saying it wasn't for you!
ReplyDeleteI mean some people like train spotting but it does not do anyone any harm.
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oh dear, i've loosened me corset a bit since that comment above. didn't really mean to come off as dissing MB stuff or you because you believe in it. i think i was just saying it wasn't for me.
ReplyDeletebut i completely agree with your take on me: I am totally ESFP!
cheers,
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that would be FEML not ESFP then woodentit?
ReplyDeleteLOL
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Trainspotters are very harmful. They ruin my day xxx
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